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05:57 pm: defining 'redefining'
I've heard from some equal marriage opponents that they are opposed to "redefining" marriage. What does that mean, exactly? Redefining the word? I'm sorry, that's not how language works. Parliament or whatever doesn't get to change the meaning of the English language word "marriage". That has already changed, by the mere fact of lots of us having talked about the concept of equal marriage, without a single jurisdiction needing to have changed its law to recognise such status.

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From:fjm
Date:May 20th, 2012 06:07 pm (UTC)

redefining marriage

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Outlawing polygamy
Insisting it can only take place in churches (instead of on the porch)
Divorce
Civil Marriage.
Allowing remarriage.

We've done it lots of times. They don't have a leg to stand on.
From:thatmakesmemad
Date:May 20th, 2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm Henry VIII redefined marriage didn't he ?
Women are no longer seen as the property of their husband.
The til death us do part of the marriage vow is not legally binding.
It's been changing as society changes.
It's been my view point that when it comes to undermining marriage
you'd be hard pushed to put forward a case that gay marriage trumps
divorce lawyer now being a career option.
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From:psych0naut
Date:May 21st, 2012 06:04 am (UTC)
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It certainly is how language works in a legal context, generally speaking. The words used in legislation often have very specific meanings which are explicitly defined in the text of the act itself, or else are established through case law. I'm not sure if this is the case with the word "marriage" in the various jurisdictions of the UK, but I wouldn't dismiss out of hand the possibility that some act somewhere explicitly defines the term in a manner so as to preclude its taking place between two members of the same sex. If that's the case, then people who talk about "redefining" marriage have a valid point.
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