Abi

do you use glucosomyne and chondaritin?

also have you tried using devils claw? Its genetically linked so you have a slightly less than 50% chance of it working, but if it does work for you it can be VERY helpful

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Not tried any of that. Going to see what the migraine clinic say.

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glucosamine and chondroitin are really good for bone repair. It would seem likely that historically humans consumed a fair amount of broken down fish cartilage and it was this that repaired our bones (I follow an amphibious ape theory of human development)

the long and the short is that all humans start having issues with things like pain in the knees but some of us get athritis etc. glucosamine and chondroitin provide the precursors that allow our body to rebuild worn down cartilage and bone

The devils claw is a completely different bird and I said is genetically linked so either it works really well or not all. This is true in animals studies as well, but again if it helps it helps with bone and cartilage damage

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Ahem this may lead to a migraine inducing/enhancing debate.

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I agree

And i wont discuss human development any more here - if we want to continue come to my journal and we can do it there

I'm more concerned about getting Abbi as well as possible both from bone pain and migraines

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Mind you devils claw seems to have a nasty selection of potential side effects

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1. can we take this discussion somewhere else - come to my journal not abbi's

2. lots of serious biologists and anthroplogists do accept the model.. Their is lots of good evidence for it, and lots of the man the hunter argument has been repeatedly falsified. I simply will not accept the idea that the strange characteristics of humans can all be explained because of 'sexual attraction' when their is a much better explanation available. 'sexual attraction' is woolly hand-waving bad science.

3. The whole of the geological community completely poo-poo'd the idea of plate techtonics and refused for years for any evidence to be published in any physiological journal. Information about it took years to get any sort of foothold because it was so utterly condemned as lies and garbage

4. i can give you tons of example of just this sort of paradigm bashing, where one paradigm challenges another paradigm - I can do this because I'm a historian of science

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Good pain management techniques would lower the amount of drugs you need purely for the pain. If pain is going to be a constant, lifelong companion, then it's worth seeing if you can get some proper help with managing it. If you can't get into a programme, then there are still some helpful techniques online.

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