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02:52 pm: specification for a game
There should be a game. Probably a computer game. It should be called 'Metropolis'. It should start in 1850. The game board is London, Middlesex and the nearer parts of the Home Counties, as they existed then. It should be a fairly realistic map, not a stylised one. You are the chairman of the Metropolitan Railway Company or one of its contemporaries. (Possibly a fictional contemporary). You have to raise capital, secure Parliamentary approval for routes, build lines, buy trains and run services. You can agree to joint ventures or get running rights over rivals' lines. You can buy land near your lines, build houses on it, and sell that. It is done on a maps-and-timetables level, with real prices for tunnels and trains. Where you build your lines and the service pattern you set up affects how London develops. If you decide that suburban Essex is the right place to expand into with your railway, maybe you don't even get a Metro-land in north-west Middlesex, or maybe someone else comes along and does it instead. Around 1890 you get the option of building tube railways too. I don't know when the game ends. Maybe it always ends in 1933 with the formation of London Transport. Maybe you can carry on.

Does this game exist already?

[Edit: It's not Transport Tycoon. That's far too stylised, I want a simulation].

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From:thatmakesmemad
Date:March 2nd, 2010 03:19 pm (UTC)
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Sounds like transport tycoon only with less transport options and far more political content and localisation.
Hmm you can get maps which have been laid out to match various locations mind.
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From:abigailb
Date:March 2nd, 2010 03:30 pm (UTC)
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I'm aware of Transport Tycoon. It's too much of a toy and not enough of a simulation for what I'm imagining.
From:thatmakesmemad
Date:March 2nd, 2010 03:39 pm (UTC)
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I suspect the market for such games has died along with adventure games with puzzles instead of fighting.
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From:eldritchreality
Date:March 3rd, 2010 07:46 pm (UTC)
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Tell that to puzzle quest!
From:thatmakesmemad
Date:March 4th, 2010 08:18 am (UTC)
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Not exactly in the same league as the old Lucas Arts point and click adventures or the old Infocom games
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From:eldritchreality
Date:March 4th, 2010 09:32 am (UTC)
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Ok, I see your point.

Though I have to admit that puzzle quest galactrix has had me stalled because I can't solve a puzzle in the very short timespan it gives me to the point where I've given up on the game. Which never happened on any Lucasarts etc game I played (though I was probably less than 10 years old during Infocom's glory days so I can't really comment on those.)
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From:pjc50
Date:March 2nd, 2010 03:30 pm (UTC)
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Transport Tycoon / Railroad Tycoon or some mod for it should have most of those elements, although city development is only somewhat affected by the railways and it doesn't really model the sheer scale of the growth of London.
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From:hazyjayne
Date:March 2nd, 2010 03:31 pm (UTC)
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OpenTTD is the closest I can think of.

However this game sounds AWESOME :)
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From:eldritchreality
Date:March 2nd, 2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
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Railroad tycoon 3 is actually pretty close to what you're after. It's extremely simulationist relative to the other games in the genre.

Building railroads through places actively improves their economy, and this is an important part of the game strategy.

Also ISTR one of the later scenarios involves picking one of the major london railroads to play in the late 19th century. I have fond memories of my time as head of the great western railway.
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From:abigailb
Date:March 2nd, 2010 06:00 pm (UTC)
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Does it still have little trains that take in-game months to get from one and to another end of their line?
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From:katsmeat
Date:March 2nd, 2010 06:27 pm (UTC)
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No, I imagine that's a feature of Railroad Tycoon: UK Modern Edition.
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From:eldritchreality
Date:March 3rd, 2010 07:45 pm (UTC)
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Alas, I think it is also a feature of railroad tycoon 3.
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From:abigailb
Date:March 4th, 2010 04:19 pm (UTC)
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Yes, that's basically what I'm imagining. You wouldn't see individual train movements in the game any more than would see individual personal combats in a strategic war game.
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From:psych0naut
Date:March 5th, 2010 09:00 am (UTC)
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You should totally post this to uk.transport.london.
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