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10:43 am: Wales in Welsh
Someone has put up a rendering of OpenStreetMap in the UK in Welsh. Some of the data is dodgy, but I expect it will quickly be fixed now there is a practical reason to do this. Looks kind of weird having Welsh names for only some English cities (what is the Welsh for Milton Keynes? Heh. But surely there are Welsh names for Rochester and Manchester?)

update: added Welsh names for Plymouth, Bath, Manchester, Colchester, Lancaster, Salisbury. Corrected Tywyn.

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From:marnanel
Date:January 14th, 2008 10:10 am (UTC)
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I don't know of a Welsh name for Rochester (which is surprising, since it must have been around when they were running Kent). Manchester is "Manceinion".
From:marnanel
Date:January 14th, 2008 10:16 am (UTC)
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Yeah, it's not possible to ask Google to narrow search to Welsh-only documents yet, but if you approximate it there are lots of instances of people writing "Rochester" for Rochester.

Today from that map I learned that Caerwynt is the Welsh name of Winchester. It's sort of like having a three-dimensional map, because towns in England either do or don't have Welsh names, and there's generally a reason for it (either they are very old, or they are new but are places that Welsh people have to talk about a lot in modern times), and this forms the third dimension of the map.
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From:abigailb
Date:January 14th, 2008 10:32 am (UTC)
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I've found the list I made back in 2006 and will make sure everything on it is there.
From:marnanel
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:06 am (UTC)
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I think it would be a useful thing to have on live.gnome.org or something, or at least somewhere on the web.
From:marnanel
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:13 am (UTC)
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You added those names, or they did?

Does the OSM format allow for a place to have multiple names by language?
From:marnanel
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:15 am (UTC)
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(Bear in mind that the question also arises in Scotland, and I imagine Man and Cornwall too.)

Since I can't seem to zoom to it, did you get Hereford translated to Henffordd?

Edited at 2008-01-14 02:16 pm (UTC)
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From:abigailb
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:19 am (UTC)
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Hennfordd is present and correct.
From:marnanel
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:19 am (UTC)
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but hopefully with one n. :)
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From:abigailb
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:20 am (UTC)
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Um, yes.
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From:abigailb
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:18 am (UTC)
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I did. The map won't update until whenever they re-render it. I don't know when that will be.

There is a 'name' tag, and then you can do 'name:cy', 'name:gd', 'name:fr', 'name:en' etc in addition to that.
From:marnanel
Date:January 14th, 2008 11:20 am (UTC)
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Oh, wonderful-- thanks a whole bunch :)
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From:ellyll
Date:January 14th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
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This is great news :)
From:(Anonymous)
Date:January 15th, 2008 11:02 am (UTC)

Awsome!

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I the one who put up the render, the plan is to update it weekly as the new data sets are available.
I'm glad is prompting people to add the welsh names!
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