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11:18 pm: Quiet week so far. Went shopping on tuesday for party things. And did a further test batch of scones today. Only 3 days to go now.

Up to chapter 12 of the Kalevala now. Really should be writing a plot summary for wikipedia. But oh well - can do that later.


It seems a bit unfair to lose your sister in a competition and then be upset at the person you lost her to : don't gamble with siblings in the first place! Väinämöinen would probably do better to find a dating agency.

In more seriousness, I like it. I like the translation. I can't compare it to the original - indeed after having peeked at the original, and later having it waved in my face as a temptation, i have decided not to do so again because I'm sure I would then go and learn Finnish and I can't be having with that. I find the use of repetition, either literally, or sometimes dualism, repetition of form, interesting as a device. I could pontificate more. But I'll wait until I've read more, I think. The tacked-on Christianity is getting a bit unfortunate.

Also wtf is the Sampo?


watched various things. watched the Tom Baker serial Robots of Death with parents and brother. enjoyed this. it's funny how my dad will claim to have seen serials before - but half the time he's lying and makes absurd predictions as to what will come next, the other half he makes startlingly accurate predictions - i remember he did that with The Daleks. anyway, yes, now have official run out of doctor who to watch (well, technically i have The Edge of Destruction but that's only 50 mins)

as to new who: really like how they've done the cybermen, with the steel and the CLUNK CLUNK. impressive that they are actually scary, its the 2000s and they are still recognisably cybermen. amusing they used a device from the start of Robots of Death at the start of Rise of the Cybermen though.

also watched This Is Spın̈al Tap for first time. And then watched it with the commentary on. The DVD commentary is great: it's given by the band IN CHARACTER. They moan about how the director of the film made them look silly by selecting incidents. Hurrah.

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From:ex_sonjaaa
Date:May 18th, 2006 12:07 am (UTC)
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I didn't know you were reading the Kalevala! You rule!
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From:greeba
Date:May 18th, 2006 06:18 am (UTC)
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The plot devices are more from The Invasion and Genesis of the Daleks if you ask me... It's like they missed having Davros in last year's Dalek stories so they just wrote an analogue of him. I like the way they use the implants to explain the ol' jug handles, nice touch, but the FX shot is a bit ropey because they obviously had to freeze frame Camille Coduri to pull it off.
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From:abigailb
Date:May 18th, 2006 08:44 am (UTC)
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I'm referring to the bit where Mickey presses the button off-screen and then the Doctor forgets about him : in Robots of Death, Leela is playing with a yo-yo because apparently several minutes before, off-screen, the Doctor had told her to, and she thinks it is vitally important. Minor but spooky.

Yeah, I spotted the explanation of handlebars. :)
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From:elfbiter
Date:May 18th, 2006 08:27 am (UTC)

Kalevala

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It seems a bit unfair to lose your sister in a competition and then be upset at the person you lost her to : don't gamble with siblings in the first place! Väinämöinen would probably do better to find a dating agency.


Maybe I should mention that it was not a standard practice :-) Usually the tale is interpreted as a warning against recklessness.


I find the use of repetition, either literally, or sometimes dualism, repetition of form, interesting as a device.


Bosley's translation did chance the original rhytm, otherwise one of the beginning chapters would have have a line "be_gin_ning my re_ci_ta_tion" instead of "begin reciting". I presume the book also includes mention of Longfellow?


The tacked-on Christianity is getting a bit unfortunate.


Lönnrot did collect the original tales in the 19th century, after 800 years of Christianity in Karelia, and edited out the most obvious influence, but it was unavoidable. In fact, sometimes locals tried to prohibit poem singers repeating "pagan tales"...


Also wtf is the Sampo?


You know, Finnish scholars have argued about that for years. Often Sampo is portrayed as a sort of a Mill of Prosperity that grinds out wealth. Some have speculated that it was sort of a Ygdrasil (don't really know why), others that it is a version of a tale of "giants grind out salt in the bottom of the sea".

As far as I am concerned, Sampo was probably an eponym of a cultural development, possible the adoption of agriculture or smithcraft (after all, it was Ilmarinen's creation).
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From:abigailb
Date:May 18th, 2006 08:54 am (UTC)

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I should hope a lot of things are not standard practice! Although I quite like the method that was used for Ilmarinen's travel to the north. I shall have to try that some time.
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From:elfbiter
Date:May 18th, 2006 09:05 am (UTC)

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Well - chapter about wedding customs _used to_ be standard practice, wailers included...

As for Ilmarinen's flight, well, Concorde flights were discontinued :-)
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From:imagnocean
Date:May 18th, 2006 08:48 am (UTC)
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Really should be writing a plot summary for wikipedia

Chill girlie - wikipedia doesn't pay your bills
*hugs*
xxx
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From:abigailb
Date:May 18th, 2006 09:59 pm (UTC)
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But it does keep my writing sk1lz tuned. Which is nice.
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